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	<title>Comments on: XBMC + UPnP update - No SSDPProxy needed!</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nicolas</title>
		<link>http://www.plutinosoft.com/blog/category/blah-blah/121/comment-page-1#comment-1691</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicolas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BLKMGK</title>
		<link>http://www.plutinosoft.com/blog/category/blah-blah/121/comment-page-1#comment-309</link>
		<dc:creator>BLKMGK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 02:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.plutinosoft.com/blog/category/blahblah/121#comment-309</guid>
		<description>I tried TVersity last night with my Linktheater - ick. Honestly so far the best UPnP server I've seen so far is the one that ships with the Linkstations. All in all though most of the UPnP stuff seems weak, and seem to be mostly just WEB browser\servers with clients that can render some video - pages come up mostly text. Even with beta firmware the Linktheater is weak IMO. Hopefully this UPnP client will work out even better than the Linktheater for rendering, I look forward to being able to test it with my Linkstation! Honestly transcoding isn't that attractive to me - I'd prefer a client that can read the format. Even the Nero stuff didn't look too great on my Linktheater  Yes I realize alot of this might be my Linktheater so I'm looking forward to trying out XBMC UPnP enabled :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried TVersity last night with my Linktheater - ick. Honestly so far the best UPnP server I&#8217;ve seen so far is the one that ships with the Linkstations. All in all though most of the UPnP stuff seems weak, and seem to be mostly just WEB browser\servers with clients that can render some video - pages come up mostly text. Even with beta firmware the Linktheater is weak IMO. Hopefully this UPnP client will work out even better than the Linktheater for rendering, I look forward to being able to test it with my Linkstation! Honestly transcoding isn&#8217;t that attractive to me - I&#8217;d prefer a client that can read the format. Even the Nero stuff didn&#8217;t look too great on my Linktheater  Yes I realize alot of this might be my Linktheater so I&#8217;m looking forward to trying out XBMC UPnP enabled :)</p>
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		<title>By: BrainStormer</title>
		<link>http://www.plutinosoft.com/blog/category/blah-blah/121/comment-page-1#comment-308</link>
		<dc:creator>BrainStormer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 22:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh also the best UPnP Server is TVersity.  It not only transcodes but also allows RSS/Atom and Media RSS feeds to be served as well as FLV support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh also the best UPnP Server is TVersity.  It not only transcodes but also allows RSS/Atom and Media RSS feeds to be served as well as FLV support.</p>
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		<title>By: BrainStormer</title>
		<link>http://www.plutinosoft.com/blog/category/blah-blah/121/comment-page-1#comment-307</link>
		<dc:creator>BrainStormer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 22:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Though RemoteUI was just the User Interface.   The server provides the UI and receives the key presses from the remote.  Then the server also acts as a ControlPoint to control the other UPnP Renderers and Servers based on the keys pressed.   Also aren't most of the remote commands sent by XRT?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Though RemoteUI was just the User Interface.   The server provides the UI and receives the key presses from the remote.  Then the server also acts as a ControlPoint to control the other UPnP Renderers and Servers based on the keys pressed.   Also aren&#8217;t most of the remote commands sent by XRT?</p>
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		<title>By: Sylvain</title>
		<link>http://www.plutinosoft.com/blog/category/blah-blah/121/comment-page-1#comment-287</link>
		<dc:creator>Sylvain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 04:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WMC transcodes to L16 (PCM data) if your device doesn't understand the default format.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WMC transcodes to L16 (PCM data) if your device doesn&#8217;t understand the default format.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonkers</title>
		<link>http://www.plutinosoft.com/blog/category/blah-blah/121/comment-page-1#comment-286</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonkers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2006 20:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can XBMC play files from Nero MediaHome Server now?
http://www.nero.com/nero6/us/Nero_MediaHome_Features.html

"Transcodes your media files on−the−fly into the format your UPnP device understands" seems like a really cool feature then!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can XBMC play files from Nero MediaHome Server now?<br />
<a href="http://www.nero.com/nero6/us/Nero_MediaHome_Features.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nero.com/nero6/us/Nero_MediaHome_Features.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Transcodes your media files on−the−fly into the format your UPnP device understands&#8221; seems like a really cool feature then!</p>
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		<title>By: LiveB8</title>
		<link>http://www.plutinosoft.com/blog/category/blah-blah/121/comment-page-1#comment-277</link>
		<dc:creator>LiveB8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 13:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does all this mean that XBMC work with Rhapsody now? or?
Will it also with Windows Media Center Edition from Microsoft?
If XBMC got UPNP server could one then stream to Xbox360?

Which TCP/UDP ports do I need to open in software firewall?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does all this mean that XBMC work with Rhapsody now? or?<br />
Will it also with Windows Media Center Edition from Microsoft?<br />
If XBMC got UPNP server could one then stream to Xbox360?</p>
<p>Which TCP/UDP ports do I need to open in software firewall?</p>
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		<title>By: XBMCfanboy</title>
		<link>http://www.plutinosoft.com/blog/category/blah-blah/121/comment-page-1#comment-274</link>
		<dc:creator>XBMCfanboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 06:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UPnP RUI is client and server based right?; so the server based part would go into MediaPortal (or a plugin for MediaPortal), and only the client part would go into XBMC. Is that client part very heavy (CPU or memory resource intensive)?, I though I understod that it only sent commands in XML form over the network (and XBMC also has a built-in XML engine) so most of the resources should only be used by the GUI(?). A UPnP RUI server is not needed inside XBMC as it can't record TV localy anyhow, so yes the UPnP RUI server will be inside MediaPortal and it would do all the heavy work like keeping track of all those sheduled recordings, etc.

Anyway, if a UPnP RUI client could be integrated into XBMC then it should probebly as part of the upcomming TV-Guide somehow to enable the sheduling and recording bits, then all that is left is the ability to stream the live-TV feed (as the MediaPortal backend will handle any time-shifting or other backend tasks). MediaPortal would however have to have some king of EPG to XMLTV converter built-in so it would send the TV-listings to XBMC in XMLTV's XML-format:
http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.pl?act=ST;f=5;t=13639</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UPnP RUI is client and server based right?; so the server based part would go into MediaPortal (or a plugin for MediaPortal), and only the client part would go into XBMC. Is that client part very heavy (CPU or memory resource intensive)?, I though I understod that it only sent commands in XML form over the network (and XBMC also has a built-in XML engine) so most of the resources should only be used by the GUI(?). A UPnP RUI server is not needed inside XBMC as it can&#8217;t record TV localy anyhow, so yes the UPnP RUI server will be inside MediaPortal and it would do all the heavy work like keeping track of all those sheduled recordings, etc.</p>
<p>Anyway, if a UPnP RUI client could be integrated into XBMC then it should probebly as part of the upcomming TV-Guide somehow to enable the sheduling and recording bits, then all that is left is the ability to stream the live-TV feed (as the MediaPortal backend will handle any time-shifting or other backend tasks). MediaPortal would however have to have some king of EPG to XMLTV converter built-in so it would send the TV-listings to XBMC in XMLTV&#8217;s XML-format:<br />
<a href="http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.pl?act=ST;f=5;t=13639" rel="nofollow">http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.pl?act=ST;f=5;t=13639</a></p>
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		<title>By: Plutinosoft &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Xbox P2P ?</title>
		<link>http://www.plutinosoft.com/blog/category/blah-blah/121/comment-page-1#comment-273</link>
		<dc:creator>Plutinosoft &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Xbox P2P ?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 06:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In a follow up to my comment, I experimented a bit tonite and indeed I was able to get the xbox to receive broadcast packets. This means that it would be possible for xboxes to find each other&#8217;s UPnP Media servers by broadcasting their search requests (and notify) on the broadcast address. This is very exciting. It would be possible to stream from one xbox to another. How sweet would that be? Of course, that means I need to buy a second xbox. Any donations are welcome [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In a follow up to my comment, I experimented a bit tonite and indeed I was able to get the xbox to receive broadcast packets. This means that it would be possible for xboxes to find each other&#8217;s UPnP Media servers by broadcasting their search requests (and notify) on the broadcast address. This is very exciting. It would be possible to stream from one xbox to another. How sweet would that be? Of course, that means I need to buy a second xbox. Any donations are welcome [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sylvain</title>
		<link>http://www.plutinosoft.com/blog/category/blah-blah/121/comment-page-1#comment-271</link>
		<dc:creator>Sylvain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 03:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>XBMCfanboy,

I am pretty familiar with RUI protocol. It was proposed by Intel at the UPnP group but never took off. It is very heavy plus it relies heavily on a PC doing all the UI rendering. However the AV Renderer is a possibility. The RenderingControl you are talking about is for a Rendering Device. I have implemented that already in Platinum (device &#038; ctrlpoint). I think it makes more sense to implement a Renderer Device inside xbmc in order to be able to remote control its playback rather than implement a Renderer Ctrlpoint to control other Rendering Devices but we'll see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>XBMCfanboy,</p>
<p>I am pretty familiar with RUI protocol. It was proposed by Intel at the UPnP group but never took off. It is very heavy plus it relies heavily on a PC doing all the UI rendering. However the AV Renderer is a possibility. The RenderingControl you are talking about is for a Rendering Device. I have implemented that already in Platinum (device &#038; ctrlpoint). I think it makes more sense to implement a Renderer Device inside xbmc in order to be able to remote control its playback rather than implement a Renderer Ctrlpoint to control other Rendering Devices but we&#8217;ll see.</p>
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